Re: そもそも「76万」という数字は無かった
投稿者: aguatibiapy 投稿日時: 2007/07/19 13:01 投稿番号: [19633 / 62227]
イラストさん
私は以前にも指摘した事がありますが、シドニー ホルト氏はその論文「Whale Competing?」で、ミンク鯨生息数合算問題について直接言及して次のように書いています。
For the SHIO T&O consistently use a figure of 761,000 minkes, derived many years ago (IWC 1991) from the first series of IDCR surveys. In fact, no such number is cited by the IWC Scientific Committee, which gave its best estimates of the number in each of six sectors of the Antarctic, surveyed in successive years. The Committee did not add these six figures together to get a global total, for good reasons: having been counted in different years (and, indeed by slightly differing methods) one cannot be sure that one is counting different“populations” of a highly mobile species. Furthermore, with that consideration, the statistical error ranges quoted by ICR scientists are meaningless. However, the fact is that when the data from the second series of survey cruises under IWC auspices came to be analysed it was found that the results were not compatible with the earlier results; they were very much lower (less than one third), and now the Committee has decided that there is no acceptable estimate of minke whales in the Antarctic.
ホルト氏は1960年から1997年までSCの最も重要な科学者の一人でした。
あなたは例えば「GPの書いたものは証拠として何らの価値が無い」などと、いろいろなハードルを作っていますが、公開された論文での当時の当事者のコメントについては如何考えられますか?
これを根拠がないと否定する為には、別の当事者の具体的、直接的な証言が必要になると思いますが・・・
げんた
・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・
註:引用文中、SHIO は南半球海洋、T&Oとは田村及び大隅のことです。
私は以前にも指摘した事がありますが、シドニー ホルト氏はその論文「Whale Competing?」で、ミンク鯨生息数合算問題について直接言及して次のように書いています。
For the SHIO T&O consistently use a figure of 761,000 minkes, derived many years ago (IWC 1991) from the first series of IDCR surveys. In fact, no such number is cited by the IWC Scientific Committee, which gave its best estimates of the number in each of six sectors of the Antarctic, surveyed in successive years. The Committee did not add these six figures together to get a global total, for good reasons: having been counted in different years (and, indeed by slightly differing methods) one cannot be sure that one is counting different“populations” of a highly mobile species. Furthermore, with that consideration, the statistical error ranges quoted by ICR scientists are meaningless. However, the fact is that when the data from the second series of survey cruises under IWC auspices came to be analysed it was found that the results were not compatible with the earlier results; they were very much lower (less than one third), and now the Committee has decided that there is no acceptable estimate of minke whales in the Antarctic.
ホルト氏は1960年から1997年までSCの最も重要な科学者の一人でした。
あなたは例えば「GPの書いたものは証拠として何らの価値が無い」などと、いろいろなハードルを作っていますが、公開された論文での当時の当事者のコメントについては如何考えられますか?
これを根拠がないと否定する為には、別の当事者の具体的、直接的な証言が必要になると思いますが・・・
げんた
・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・
註:引用文中、SHIO は南半球海洋、T&Oとは田村及び大隅のことです。
これは メッセージ 19620 (aguatibiapy さん)への返信です.
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