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投稿者： ussilentmajority 投稿日時： 2003/11/04 06:27 投稿番号： [2060 / 66577]
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中国人の不満・怒りは、戦争は何十年も立っていること、ODAもちゃんとあげていることをつねに意識している日本人にとって、不可解なものと思われるかもしれない。けれど、戦争賠償は国家のレベルで実現されなかったこと、
I am no expert on international laws, but wasn't the WWII indemnity issue basically settled by San Francisco Treaty in 1950s?
>>日本政府は中国人民に対して相手が納得できるほどいまだに謝っていないこと、戦争の被害はいまも続けていること、を意識している中国人にとって、これは、不可解なものではない。
Did you know that there have been a number of formal and informal apologies to the Chinese people and victims, as you see below?
China People's Daily
Tuesday, October 09, 2001, updated at 09:43(GMT+8)
China
Japanese PM Koizumi Expresses Heartfelt Apology over Aggression
Japanese PM Lays Wreath at War Memorial Hall
Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi expressed his heartfelt apology and condolences Monday to those Chinese who lost their lives in the war waged by Japan half a century ago.
After visiting the Lugou (Marco Polo) Bridge and the Memorial Hall of the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, Koizumi said to the press that he has come to understand the miseries of war more deeply after looking at this exhibition and offers heartfelt apology and condolences to the Chinese victims of Japanese aggression.
After his arrival in Beijing, Koizumi went straight to the Lugou bridge and then to the nearby Memorial Hall. After bowing he placed a wreath beneath a large statue and mourned in silence for a moment. The statue, entitled the "Great Wall of Bones and Flesh," depicts loyalist Chinese soldiers armed with guns.
Monday, August 24, 1998 Published at 08:59 GMT 09:59 UK BBC
Japanese war criminals make apology
Bodies were dumped in mass graves at Nanking
In an emotional webcast, a group of Japanese war criminals have recounted their roles in some of the most gruesome events in military history.
Four elderly veterans spoke from Tokyo about atrocities committed during Japan's occupation of China. A global Internet audience was able to monitor the event which was beamed to the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.
Shiro Azuma, who took part in what became known as the Rape of Nanking, confessed he had killed 37 women, children and elderly people.
"We were able to kill them because we despised them," he said. "We didn't respect their rights. The Japanese army in general did not respect human rights at all."
As many as 300,000 people were killed as the then-capital Nanking was looted and burned after its capture in 1937.
The organiser of the event, Rabbi Abraham Cooper, praised the moral courage of the men in speaking out and the presence of members of the Japanese media after some of their politicians had insisted atrocities had never taken place
>> ３ 要するに、日中友好の前提すなわち歴史の清算は、中国人から見てまだなされていないということ。
Is the presence of the vocal but limited number of right-wingers and vote-seekers in Japan enough to declare any judgement about the Japanese as a whole, or to claim that Japan has never apologized? Are Chinese people in denial of these facts?
On the other hand, Japanese can never change perceptions like "Japan denying the war crime" despite those apologies, as long as each of you individually remains ambiguous about admitting the war crimes. Do you want to be haunted by this topic forever? Nobody does, right?
I am no expert on international laws, but wasn't the WWII indemnity issue basically settled by San Francisco Treaty in 1950s?
>>日本政府は中国人民に対して相手が納得できるほどいまだに謝っていないこと、戦争の被害はいまも続けていること、を意識している中国人にとって、これは、不可解なものではない。
Did you know that there have been a number of formal and informal apologies to the Chinese people and victims, as you see below?
China People's Daily
Tuesday, October 09, 2001, updated at 09:43(GMT+8)
China
Japanese PM Koizumi Expresses Heartfelt Apology over Aggression
Japanese PM Lays Wreath at War Memorial Hall
Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi expressed his heartfelt apology and condolences Monday to those Chinese who lost their lives in the war waged by Japan half a century ago.
After visiting the Lugou (Marco Polo) Bridge and the Memorial Hall of the War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, Koizumi said to the press that he has come to understand the miseries of war more deeply after looking at this exhibition and offers heartfelt apology and condolences to the Chinese victims of Japanese aggression.
After his arrival in Beijing, Koizumi went straight to the Lugou bridge and then to the nearby Memorial Hall. After bowing he placed a wreath beneath a large statue and mourned in silence for a moment. The statue, entitled the "Great Wall of Bones and Flesh," depicts loyalist Chinese soldiers armed with guns.
Monday, August 24, 1998 Published at 08:59 GMT 09:59 UK BBC
Japanese war criminals make apology
Bodies were dumped in mass graves at Nanking
In an emotional webcast, a group of Japanese war criminals have recounted their roles in some of the most gruesome events in military history.
Four elderly veterans spoke from Tokyo about atrocities committed during Japan's occupation of China. A global Internet audience was able to monitor the event which was beamed to the Simon Wiesenthal Center's Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.
Shiro Azuma, who took part in what became known as the Rape of Nanking, confessed he had killed 37 women, children and elderly people.
"We were able to kill them because we despised them," he said. "We didn't respect their rights. The Japanese army in general did not respect human rights at all."
As many as 300,000 people were killed as the then-capital Nanking was looted and burned after its capture in 1937.
The organiser of the event, Rabbi Abraham Cooper, praised the moral courage of the men in speaking out and the presence of members of the Japanese media after some of their politicians had insisted atrocities had never taken place
>> ３ 要するに、日中友好の前提すなわち歴史の清算は、中国人から見てまだなされていないということ。
Is the presence of the vocal but limited number of right-wingers and vote-seekers in Japan enough to declare any judgement about the Japanese as a whole, or to claim that Japan has never apologized? Are Chinese people in denial of these facts?
On the other hand, Japanese can never change perceptions like "Japan denying the war crime" despite those apologies, as long as each of you individually remains ambiguous about admitting the war crimes. Do you want to be haunted by this topic forever? Nobody does, right?
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