日中関係

＞君は憲法98条2項、及び、憲法前文3項をどの様に法解釈するのか
な？


大原簿記学校で教わったのか？（笑）

すでに現状から乖離しているのではないかい？

Article 11. The individual economy of urban and rural working people, operated within the limits prescribed by law, is a complement to the socialist public economy. The state protects the lawful rights and interests of the individual economy. The state guides, helps and supervises the individual economy by exercising administrative control.

Article 12. Socialist public property is sacred and inviolable. The state protects socialist public property. Appropriation or damage of state or collective property by any organization or individual by whatever means is prohibited.

Article 13. The state protects the right of citizens to own lawfully earned income, savings, houses and other lawful property. The state protects by law the right of citizens to inherit private property.

Article 14. The state continuously raises labour productivity, improves economic results and develops the productive forces by enhancing the enthusiasm of the working people, raising the level of their technical skill, disseminating advanced science and technology, improving the systems of economic administration and enterprise operation and management, instituting the socialist system of responsibility in various forms and improving organization of work. The state practises strict economy and combats waste. The state properly apportions accumulation and consumption, pays attention to the interests of the collective and the individual as well as of the state and, on the basis of expanded production, gradually improves the material and cultural life of the people.

Article 15. The state practises economic planning on the basis of socialist public ownership. It ensures the proportionate and co-ordinated growth of the national economy through overall balancing by economic planning and the supplementary role of regulation by the market. Disturbance of the orderly functioning of the social economy or disruption of the state economic plan by any organization or individual is prohibited.

トータルで138条まであるのですが、全部出しましょうか？

Article 6. The basis of the socialist economic system of the People's Republic of China is socialist public ownership of the means of production, namely, ownership by the whole people and collective ownership by the working people. The system of socialist public ownership supersedes the system of exploitation of man by man; it applies the principle of 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his work.

Article 7. The state economy is the sector of socialist economy under ownership by the whole people; it is the leading force in the national economy. The state ensures the consolidation and growth of the state economy.

Article 8. Rural people's communes, agricultural producers' co-operatives, and other forms of co- operative economy such as producers' supply and marketing, credit and consumers co-operatives, belong to the sector of socialist economy under collective ownership by the working people. Working people who are members of rural economic collectives have the right, within the limits prescribed by law, to farm private plots of cropland and hilly land, engage in household sideline production and raise privately owned livestock. The various forms of co-operative economy in the cities and towns, such as those in the handicraft, industrial, building, transport, commerical and service trades, all belong to the sector of socialist economy under collective ownership by the working people. The state protects the lawful rights and interests of the urban and rural economic collectives and encourages, guides and helps the growth of the collective economy.

Article 9. Mineral resources, waters, forests, mountains, grassland, unreclaimed land, beaches and other natural resources are owned by the state, that is, by the whole people, with the exception of the forests, mountains, grassland, unreclaimed land and beaches that are owned by collectives in accordance with the law. The state ensures the rational use of natural resources and protects rare animals and plants. The appropriation or damage of natural resources by any organization or individual by whatever means is prohibited.

Article 10. Land in the cities is owned by the state. Land in the rural and suburban areas is owned by collectives except for those portions which belong to the state in accordance with the law; house sites and private plots of cropland and hilly land are also owned by collectives. The state may in the public interest take over land for its use in accordance with the law. No organization or individual may appropriate, buy, sell or lease land, or unlawfully transfer land in other ways. All organizations and individuals who use land must make rational use of the land.

CHAPTER I. GENERAL PRINCIPLES

Article 1. The People's Republic of China is a socialist state under the people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants. The socialist system is the basic system of the People's Republic of China. Sabotage of the socialist system by any organization or individual is prohibited.

Article 2. All power in the People's Republic of China belongs to the people. The organs through which the people exercise state power are the National People's Congress and the local people's congresses at different levels. The people administer state affairs and manage economic, cultural and social affairs through various channels and in various ways in accordance with the law.

Article 3. The state organs of the People's Republic of China apply the principle of democratic centralism. The National People's Congress and the local people's congresses at different levels are instituted through democratic election. They are responsible to the people and subject to their supervision. All administrative, judicial and procuratorial organs of the state are created by the people's congresses to which they are responsible and under whose supervision they operate. The division of functions and powers between the central and local state organs is guided by the principle of giving full play to the initiative and enthusiasm of the local authorities under the unified leadership of the central authorities.

Article 4. All nationalities in the People's Republic of China are equal. The state protects the lawful rights and interests of the minority nationalities and upholds and develops the relationship of equality, unity and mutual assistance among all of China's nationalities. Discrimination against and oppression of any nationality are prohibited; any acts that undermine the unity of the nationalities or instigate their secession are prohibited. The state helps the areas inhabited by minority nationalities speed up their economic and cultural development in accordance with the peculiarities and needs of the different minority nationalities. Regional autonomy is practised in areas where people of minority nationalities live in compact communities; in these areas organs of self- government are established for the exercise of the right of autonomy. All the national autonomous areas are inalienable parts of the People's Republic of China. The people of all nationalities have the freedom to use and develop their own spoken and written languages, and to preserve or reform their own ways and customs.

Article 5. The state upholds the uniformity and dignity of the socialist legal system. No law or administrative or local rules and regulations shall contravene the constitution. All state organs, the armed forces, all political parties and public organizations and all enterprises and undertakings must abide by the Constitution and the law. All acts in violation of the Constitution and the law must be investigated. No organization or individual may enjoy the privilege of being above the Constitution and the law.

The Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference is a broadly representative organization of the united front, which has played a significant historical role and will continue to do so in the political and social life of the country, in promoting friendship with the people of other countries and in the struggle for socialist modernization and for the reunification and unity of the country. The People's Republic of China is a unitary multi-national state built up jointly by the people of all its nationalities. Socialist relations of equality, unity and mutual assistance have been established among them and will continue to be strengthened. In the struggle to safeguard the unity of the nationalities, it is necessary to combat big-nation chauvinism, mainly Han chauvinism, and also necessary to combat local-national chauvinism. The state does its utmost to promote the common prosperity of all nationalities in the country. China's achievements in revolution and construction are inseparable from support by the people of the world. The future of China is closely linked with that of the whole world. China adheres to an independent foreign policy as well as to the five principles of mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, mutual non-aggression, non-interference in each other's internal affairs, equality and mutual benefit, and peaceful coexistence in developing diplomatic relations and economic and cultural exchanges with other countries; China consistently opposes imperialism, hegemonism and colonialism, works to strengthen unity with the people of other countries, supports the oppressed nations and the developing countries in their just struggle to win and preserve national independence and develop their national economies, and strives to safeguard world peace and promote the cause of human progress. This Constitution affirms the achievements of the struggles of the Chinese people of all nationalities and defines the basic system and basic tasks of the state in legal form; it is the fundamental law of the state and has supreme legal authority. The people of all nationalities, all state organs, the armed forces, all political parties and public organizations and all enterprises and undertakings in the country must take the Constitution as the basic norm of conduct, and they have the duty to uphold the dignity of the Constitution and ensure its implementation.

The basic task of the nation in the years to come is to concentrate its effort on socialist modernization. Under the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the guidance of Marxism- Leninism and Mao ZedongThought, the Chinese people of all nationalities will continue to adhere to the people's democratic dictatorship and follow the socialist road, steadily improve socialist institutions, develop socialist democracy, improve the socialist legal system and work hard and self-reliantly to modernize industry, agriculture, national defence and science and technology step by step to turn China into a socialist country with a high level of culture and democracy. The exploiting classes as such have been eliminated in our country. However, class struggle will continue to exist within certain limits for a long time to come. The Chinese people must fight against those forces and elements, both at home and abroad, that are hostile to China's socialist system and try to undermine it. Taiwan is part of the sacred territory of the People's Republic of China. It is the lofty duty of the entire Chinese people, including our compatriots in Taiwan, to accomplish the great task of reunifying the motherland. In building socialism it is imperative to rely on the workers, peasants and intellectuals and unite with all the forces that can be united. In the long years of revolution and construction, there has been formed under the leadership of the Communist Party of China a broad patriotic united front that is composed of democratic parties and people's organizations and embraces all socialist working people, all patriots who support socialism and all patriots who stand for reunification of the motherland. This united front will continue to be consolidated and developed.

After the founding of the People's Republic, the transition of Chinese society from a new- democratic to a socialist society was effected step by step. The socialist transformation of the private ownership of the means of production was completed, the system of exploitation of man by man eliminated and the socialist system established. The people's democratic dictatorship led by the working class and based on the alliance of workers and peasants, which is in essence the dictatorship of the proletariat, has been consolidated and developed. The Chinese people and the Chinese People's Liberation Army have thwarted aggression, sabotage and armed provocations by imperialists and hegemonists,safeguarded China's national independence and security and strengthened its national defence. Major successes have been achieved in economic development. An independent and fairly comprehensive socialist system of industry has in the main been established. There has been a marked increase in agricultural production. Significant progress has been made in educational, scientific, cultural and other undertakings, and socialist ideological education has yielded noteworthy results. The living standards of the people have improved considerably. Both the victory of China's new-democratic revolution and the successes of its socialist cause have been achieved by the Chinese people of all nationalities under the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the guidance of Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thought, and by upholding truth, correcting errors and overcoming numerous difficulties and hardships.

では、こんなので宜しければ前文から

CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

PREAMBLE

China is one of the countries with the longest histories in the world. The people of all nationalities in China have jointly created a splendid culture and have a glorious revolutionary tradition. Feudal China was gradually reduced after 1840 to a semi-colonial and semi-feudal country. The Chinese people waged wave upon wave of heroic struggles for national independence and liberation and for democracy and freedom. Great and earth-shaking historical changes have taken place in China in the 20th century. The Revolution of 1911, led by Dr Sun Yat-sen, abolished the feudal monarchy and gave birth to the Republic of China. But the Chinese people had yet to fulfil their historical task of overthrowing imperialism and feudalism. After waging hard, protracted and tortuous struggles, armed and otherwise, the Chinese people of all nationalities led by the Communist Party of China with Chairman Mao Zedong as its leader ultimately, in 1949, overthrew the rule of imperialism, feudalism and bureaucrat capitalism, won the great victory of the new-democratic revolution and founded the People's Republic of China. Thereupon the Chinese people took state power into their own hands and became masters of the country.

バカの一言で片付けてしまうのですね。

では、そのバカの考えにさえ遠く認識の及ばない君はいったい何なのでしょうか？

さぁ、逃げてないでそろそろ質問に答えてもらえないものかね？

やはり、君には無理かな？

日本の法律、憲法を都合よく解釈して

日本を罵倒し、中国を利する専門知識は豊富だが

中国の現実を直視する勇気は彼にはないね。（笑）

中国に憲法有ったのか、一党独裁でどんな憲法か、紹介して欲しい。
もっと日本人に中国の教科書を紹介してくれない。

＞「ほとんど前文には意味が無い」（法解釈上の補助的役割しか持たない）

アホか。法解釈専門バカの極みだ。

お前のような、専門バカがいるから非人間的行為でも正当化されてしまう。

>日本国憲法前文は、”ほとんど無い”

ではなく、「ほとんど前文には意味が無い」（法解釈上の補助的役割しか持たない）

と言ったんだが、理解できなかったのかな？

まさか、君はこんなに簡単な文章が読めないわけではないよね？

君は憲法98条2項、及び、憲法前文3項をどの様に法解釈するのかな？

とても簡単なことなんだが、解らないわけじゃないよね。

反日中共信者のキミのどこに

人道主義の観点があるのか。

日本国憲法前文は、”ほとんど無い”と論ずるシナ人に、”人道主義”など理解できるはずないな。

自称”人道主義”のシナ人アホ丸出し。

憲法に反する条約を結べる道理があるのかい？

日本国憲法発布と日中友好条約締結の時系列はどうなってるんだい？

お前とことん馬鹿だな（憐憫）

ほとんど前文には意味が無いんだが。（笑）

では、簡単なところで、憲法優位説と条約優位説について簡潔で宜しいですから述べて見ようね。

それから、その説を用いて、君の論を完成させて見よう。

まぁ、君が余程の馬鹿でなければ簡単な質問だから、期待してるよ。

しかし、言うに事欠いて「生存権」とはね・・・（大笑）

　 日本国民は、恒久の平和を念願し、人間相互の関係を支配する崇高な理想を深く自覚するのであって、平和を愛する諸国民の公正と信義に信頼して、われらの安全と生存を保持しようと決意した。われらは、平和を維持し、専制と隷従、圧迫と偏狭を地上から永遠に除去しようと努めてゐる国際社会において、名誉ある地位を占めたいと思ふ。われらは、全世界の国民が、ひとしく恐怖と欠乏から免かれ、平和のうちに生存する権利を有することを確認する。

これはなんだか分るかな？

日本政府は何より李氏の生存権を認める立場だね。

これは、日中友好条約以前の問題だがね（嘲笑）

君の考えは○○だろうでは、論にも何にもなっていないんだが、君は基礎教育も受けていないのかな？

貴方はこのトピックでは新しい方ですから、

最近掲示板荒らしによる投稿が増加してるのがお分かりにならないかもしれません。

彼らには当初から議論の意思など無く、中国や中国人をからかったり侮辱するのが楽しみなのですが、

投稿内容をざっとお読みになり、判断が付かないでしょうか？

日中関係と言えば、けして日中台だけの問題ではなく、

歴史認識・経済関係・社会問題・安全保障問題・etc...etc...

と多肢に渡るのは言うまでもないと思います。

そこで、日中関係を語る上での基本的な原理・原則とは日中共同声明であり、

日中平和条約であると言っているのです。

その一番基礎になる根幹を認識せず騒いでいるのが増えたので注意したのですが、

貴方に誤解を与えたようです。

＞私の考えは、以前中台関係トピで述べたように、人道主義の観点に立ち、
この様なケースの場合入国を認めるとの考えですが、何か問題でもありますか？

はあ？実際のチミは以下だろ。

私（YELLOW）の考えは、いつも中国関係トピで述べるように、常に反日の観点に立ち、
あらゆるケースで反日罵倒を認めるとの考えですが、何か問題でもありますか？

この様なケースの場合入国を認めるとの考えですが、何か問題でもありますか？
⇒では、まず日中共同宣言を読みなさいというのは何のことでしょうか？もっとその前の投稿を探してみましたが、全然噛み合っていないって感じでしたので、多分李さん訪日問題を言っているのではないかと思って、そういうふうに書きましたが、勘違いしたら、ごめんなさい。
入管法の「権限のある機関の発行した文書」に
政令で上記機関に台湾を定めた事により条約違反はしていませんが、
⇒どういうことを言っているかわかりませんが、もし、ほかのトビで討論していた台湾人の入管申請する際の国籍欄記入問題であれば、恐らく、台湾の人が日本の役人に対して”俺、中国人じゃないよ”という意味で国籍欄に台湾と記入して、入管のほうは別にそう書いた台湾人に”ちゃんと直せ”と言わないだけではないか。どう直すか役人の仕事だと思います。それで何か問題があるのでしょうか？それでも条約違反などになるのでしょうか？条約でも権限のある機関の発行した文書にどういうふうに記入されても日本の国内法に何の罰則もないはずです。

台湾も中国も誰かの女ではなく、台湾と付き合っているから中国と付き合うなということがもし台湾政府が主張したら、台湾政府の非になります。逆に中国政府がそういう要求すれば明らかに中国政府の勘違いや大人気ないところだと思います。まして一民間人の訪日に対しての中国の怒りや不満に理解できません。中国政府がそういう子供のような態度は今まで日本政府が甘やかしてきたせいだと思います。これから日本と中国両国がもっと大人な関係を築いていくことを期待し、外務省の役人達（特に中国担当者）頑張ってもらいたいです。

どこに行ってもよその人々に嫌われる、、、未来は明るい？

平気で差別をしている、、、未来は明るい？

どうぞ、反論を 　 。。。

君はやってることに芸もなければ、能もないよ。

もう少し本物を見習いなさい。

>一民間人の李登輝さんの入国申請を拒否すべきだとお考えでしょうか？

私の考えは、以前中台関係トピで述べたように、人道主義の観点に立ち、
この様なケースの場合入国を認めるとの考えですが、何か問題でもありますか？

また、次の質問ですが、日本は台湾を国としては認めていませんが、
入管法の「権限のある機関の発行した文書」に
政令で上記機関に台湾を定めた事により条約違反はしていませんが、
これも何か問題でもありますか？

日本が李登輝にビザ出したからと言って、キイキイ喚くのは醜いですね。
貧しくてもてない女（中国）がお金持ちのいい男（日本）に「あの女（台湾）と付き合わないで！」と泣き言を言うようなものだからです。
そんな浮気男は振ってしまいなさいよ。

＞中国政府がすべて”中国台湾省”の人が中華人民共和国のパスポートを持たないと日本政府がその入国申請拒否しなさい。さもなければ日中共同宣言違反になるということを主張したら、日本政府もそれを遵守しなければならないとお考えでしょうか？

基本的にはそういうことです。ただ、中華キャノン政府は（爆、失敬）中華人民共和国政府は、寛大なので大方の台湾人民の訪日には目をつむっているのです。ただし、絶対悪である黒幕、李登輝の訪日だけは断じて許せないのです。

誰が黒幕であるのかは、キャノン政府のみに決定権がありますのであしからず。

これすべて、日中共同宣言に基づく神託であり、人民政府は絶対正義なのです。（爆）

Ｒｉｅｎさん、分かりますよ。
それはシーニュですよね。随分、難しいことを、こんな掲示板でおっしゃるものですね。無学な中国人に分かるわけがないじゃありませんか。
哲学トピか何かで論じられてはいかがですか。

＞中国と友好的態度をとって中国の発展と進歩に協力すべきでしょう。

土下座して金を貢げということでしょうか？

一民間人の李登輝さんの入国申請を拒否すべきだとお考えでしょうか？じゃもし、中国政府がすべて”中国台湾省”の人が中華人民共和国のパスポートを持たないと日本政府がその入国申請拒否しなさい。さもなければ日中共同宣言違反になるということを主張したら、日本政府もそれを遵守しなければならないとお考えでしょうか？

　　 日本で中国人の犯罪の例は確かあると認めだけてなく、中国人の犯罪を絶対に阻止すべきだと思います。があくまでも犯罪する中国人は少数で中国人全体を代表することができないとおもいます。日本人だって犯罪事件は毎日新聞で報道されているのではないでしょうか。要するに、全体を見なくで、悪いところしか見ないと全体が悪く見えると思います。中国だって文明な社会を造るため頑張っていると思います。中国は国際的ルールに合うように、いろいろな社会法律を換えたり、世界人権条約に加入して、人権様子も改善してきました。政治もだんだん変わりながら来ました。今の中国は改革開放、経済発展第一の時代で、２-30年まえの門を閉じた文化大革命時代とぜんぜん違うと思います。中国は経済、教育、生活レベル、国民意識・・・いろいろ分野で進歩してきました。日本はこの様な中国の発展と進歩の様子をもっと見るべきではないでしょうか。これをＥｎｖｙするのではなくもっと中国と友好的態度をとって中国の発展と進歩に協力すべきでしょう。なぜなら、中国の経済発展は日本にとって利益が害より大きいと思います。中国発展は脅威だと思うのは大間違いとおもいます。お互い疑こと、不友好なことをやると、両国の経済発展と民主的進歩に大きな損だと思います。中国に成語がありますがー両敗倶傷の悪性循環になると思います。

大陸中国人として、どうして同胞のピッキング犯中国人へ警告しないのですか？
日本だけでなく、全世界で中国人が嫌われるような行動をどうして黙認しているのですか、面子を大事にする民族というのは冗談ですか？
どうして、日本・アメリカ・台湾などの他の国へするどい批判をするのに、自国の高官へ批判がないのですか？（まさか完全無欠の政治を行っているなどとの、戯言はいりません）批判すると拘束されというのは本当？

素朴な疑問。大陸中国人って何人いるの？
噂では13億人いるとか、本当？
いっつも聞こえてくる人は江何某とかの代理人の声。中国は数百人の国かなと思わせる、ふっしっぎ！！
人民へインタビューしても同じ答え、どうして？かれらは意思のある人間なの、それとも洗脳されているの？
もしかしたら、中国＝江および共産党なの？人民はあちらにソッポ向いているだけなの？
政治の舞台では大国きどりの中国だけれども、経済部門になると、どうして貧しい農民国家の中国なの？彼らは（共産党の）役者なの？

チミィ、本文ないの？
論理で対抗できないのね＜爆＞

それ以外に何の意味があるの。（爆）

１９世紀的世界観ですねえ。
日本の「小ささ」は架空の物語です。
中国人の願望です。
ブッシュ大統領が昔、日本にやってきて
ゲロを吐いた。
その意味を理解できなければ、今日の
国際政治は語れないのです。
中国は軍事的に、これ以上の伸張は
ありません。
日本は逆なのです。こわい話ですが。